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So, let me give you a little background before I pose my question. I'm new to speeding tickets. For 7 years I've been a master at seeing a CHP officer in the distance and slowing down before he/she can ping me. I have unnaturally good eye sight during the day. Anyways, I usually do 15 miles above the limit on the Highway and I frequently travel to the San Francisco bay area from Los Angeles. The PSL on the LA to SF highway is 70 so I'm usually cruising 10 to 15 mph above that, or with the flow of traffic in the left(fast) lane. If I cruise at 70 and make 1 stop on the way, it takes me 5 1/2 hours to get there. If I cruise at 80-85(or faster) with 1 stop, it takes me 4 3/4 to 5 hours. So, not a huge gain in time but enough for me. And after 4 years of doing that commute at least twice a month, I got my first ticket for speeding. Yes, I deserved it.

So, I started researching radar detectors and found one I'm comfortable with. However, I started reading about laser and I immediately thought "Damn it all to hell". My frustration over laser wore off and I started researching options. In California Laser Jammers are prohibited and you will receive an infraction if you get caught with one. Products like VEIL seem to be used in CA on the headlights/foglights.

28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

My understanding of this law(I'm not a lawyer) is that a product like VEIL or Laser Shield would be considered a "device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency..." You may say that VEIL or Laser Shield are not considered a "device", but I don't see the description for a "device" in the law so that seems to be open for the court to interpret.

So, are those products legal in CA? If so, are they legal to use on license plates?
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Just get a laser jammer, Jam Slow then Kill the jammer and no one will be the wiser. Even if you do get caught it's a fix it ticket with no points and a minimal fine. Much better than a speeding ticket!!

I know one person who got a ticket in CA for Veil, but it was because the LEO thought it was tinting the tail lights too much!!


category4's Sig:On the Vette:

Valentine V1 (pop off, x band off, volume off) It is a radar locator now not a detector.

Escort 9500ci

Laser Interceptor 4 head (2 front - 2 rear)

V1 and Blinder M45/J15 on Ford F-150

V1 on the Cadillac SRX
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While your first thought is a good idea, I don't trust myself to remember turning off the unit especially in a panic situation like that. I will consider it however, if I can pony up the cash.
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While your first thought is a good idea, I don't trust myself to remember turning off the unit especially in a panic situation like that. I will consider it however, if I can pony up the cash.
I have never in almost 3 years of using them not remembered to kill the jammer. Practice it and it becomes natural.

In only one occasion did I not kill the jammer and that was when I saw a local shooting lidar off his side view mirror, I wanted him to think it did not work all the time!!!


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Valentine V1 (pop off, x band off, volume off) It is a radar locator now not a detector.

Escort 9500ci

Laser Interceptor 4 head (2 front - 2 rear)

V1 and Blinder M45/J15 on Ford F-150

V1 on the Cadillac SRX
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