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RADAR8,

If I understood your question correctly, are you asking if Veil will be effective it applied to the interior of a plastic license plate cover?

If so, my answer would be that I would expect Veil to be effective when applied in the that manner, but perhaps not quite as much as if it were applied to the outer layer. Although I haven't specifically test one method versus the other, that's what I would expect.

The difference, though, may be practically inconsequential.

Sorry I couldn't provide a more definitive answer, at this time, to your question as we haven't specifically tested one versus the other.

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Thanks veil guy. so if my MD. front tag which is all white with black letters etc. has veil on both sides i would think i would get the ultimate protection. As long as my plate can be read which i think it should! Also i should get my blinder and veil and plate job done tomorrow. How long would veil typically last on the lenses and license plate laser cover? please reply asap. and thanks for you and the Mrs. for all the testing and work involved in creating such a fine product. I am NOT what u would call a speeder. I have logged just over 2million miles in my 36 years now as a retired teamster driver. and only one violation. Sept 1989 but, in the last 3 years i bought a 600hp z06 vette. and holy mackrel
u will be cruising at 90mph on like RTS 70 AND I 95. and usally i notice! !dang nobody has passed me so i look at my HUD in the windshield and i slowly brake my speed cause i'm in no hurry. I have also read that the C5 black with
the hidden lights is hard to p/ up...... anyway thanks again,and maybe u can get back to me about painting both sides of laser cover with veil.ps i have 1100xPIAA very bright small fog lights. can i paint them also without worring about heat buildup breaking my bulbs.
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RADAR8,

I trust you'll be doing your install inside? As it's currently freezing raining up in PA.

The key determining factor on Veil application longevity is proper pre-application preparation which is another way a saying make sure that your surface is thoroughly cleaned (perhaps with rubbing alcohol) or if its a headlight lens cover that any waxy polymer buildup is thoroughly removed (with something like 3M's Perfect-it).

If your headlights are cloudy or yellowed (due to unprotected UV damage), then I would recommend a UV-damage restorer (available at any decent auto retailer, like Pep-Boys, AutoZone, etc.).

Veil has a particular affinity towards adhering to plastic covers like an Ontrack laser shield or photo blur (two products I would heartily recommend) meaning that long-term adhesion should literally last years.

On my personal BMW 5 series vehicle, Veil had lasted nearly six years until a dear took out my headlights requiring their replacement. Our manual states six months, but we were being very conservative when we estimated its longevity early-on. We have found that Veil, if applied properly, can last far longer.

I would recommend that you apply Veil G4 only to one side unless you apply it very very lightly because if you go too heavy, the plate cover may appear unnecessarily too dark (often the case with individuals who "complain" about how dark Veil is). More isn't always better with Veil G4.

I appreciate your years as a Teamster truck driver. You guys are what keeps this country moving! You, obviously most love driving. Two million miles, is a lot of miles! (about four round-trips to the MOON and back!)

I am pleased to hear that you appreciate our work, we do it all out of the passion and love of driving, first and foremost.

As an owner of a 91 heavily modded Vette, I sure can relate to your experiences.

In fact, just last week, I am afraid I got tagged by an unmarked MD trooper who was driving a black SUV that I inadvertently blew by on I-270 towards DC. Although it was an extremely difficult shot for him to take during a relatively heavy amount of traffic, he managed to tag me in the rear with an instant-on blast of KA. Needless to say, I was toast.

Oh well, you can't win 'em all.

Like your C5, my black C4 also has retractable lights and yes it makes a huge difference. I wouldn't expect you to have an issue with your fogs with a Veil treatment as "heat" is in the FIR and police laser is in the NIR.

I hope I answered all of your questions sufficiently and that your install goes well today. I would only recommend that you do it inside given the outside weather conditions (at least as they are here).

Let me know how the install goes (maybe even provide some PICs) of the Veil and Blinder systems...

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That BMW 5 series i'm sure can easily feel like your doing 65mph when u might be doing 20+over! Thats one nice vehicle u got there! Anyway sorry to hear about the citation there are Sooooooo many vehicles out there
one never knows. 40 years ago i refused to sign a speeding ticket from a Md. State trooper. he was in an unmarked vehicle. he had the lights and all the goodies. So i told him i wanted an immediate hearing which at that time,,(because i knew the law)he was supposed to take me to the nearest magistrate where i would get an immediate hearing. Instead he just tossed the ticket into the car. Now this is 1AM. I went to court, 2 months later and told the judge that i wanted the case dismissed because i was denied my rights. The judge said there are no such laws on the books. I interupted him and told him the section,article, and paragraph to look under. The judge really tried to make me look like a fool. He announced to the ENTIRE courtroom basically that i was wrong and he would read the ruling . the ruling stated something like this. Anyone pulled over in the state of Md. for a misdemeanor and that person demands an immediate hearing. he shall be taken without delay to the nearest district where the driver will be tried by a magistrate at the soonest possible time.....Anyway the judge's face turned red and boy u could tell he was p!ssed. The hammer was slammed and the words dismissed came out of his mouth, and i actually could here people in the courtroom laughing. That was a great day!!!!btw If i would do that today in HOWARD CO.MD. i would be tazered, beat up cuffed and stuffed, and off to jail with no get out of jail free card. Thats why i will be blinded and veiled. if i screw so be it. Well i have to bring my 230 SLK in, cause i,m leaving for S Carolina. and i need to do some veiling. thanks for all your help and may GOD BLESS!!
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RADAR8,

Dieses Auto ist sehr schnell!

To be entirely candid, the 5 at 165 feels as planted at it does at 65.

Bayerische Motoren Werke M-technic cars are simply a marvel.

Those Deutsche sure know how to build 'em and the tracks/roadways for which they're intended/developed--The Ring and the Autobahnen.

Too bad I can only enjoy those speeds on a closed track, though.

Good luck with your application(s). SLKs are sure nice-looking vehicles.

If and when you can, be sure to post some PICs of your install!

Safe journey to SC...

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Hi Veilguy

Slightly of topic, but still relavent to the covers story, our plates are made from reflective backings on a perspex plate. I have made my plates from non reflective backing, hopefully to reduce the reflection and range. I don't know of any laws here prohibiting a license plate cover, but since I haven't seen any covers I believe the officers would be suspisous if they encounter one.

I remember reading that it was said Veil wasn't as effective directly on the plates, would that be correct in the case of metal plates as used in the U.S.A as well as perspex plates?
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