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Valentine One Discussion of the Valentine One (Valentine 1, V1) radar detector, manufactured by Valentine Research, and related accessories.

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You could not have said it better. I totally agree with you on Roy and about Guys Of Lidar. This discussion on the V1 and Bel I was not expecting. I like both radar detectors as I said before. Both are outstanding. I liked how GOL sets up their testing ground. I believe its just as good of testing as speedzones or radartest.com does. We can all have our favorite radar detectors. But as Veil guy said we are all on the same team at the end of the day. Remember stalkervision I'm not bashing Beltronics, I just happen to own a V1 and like it better. Thats all! Thank you veil guy for your reply on this.

Sincerly,

Georgia Boy

Well when you say Bell build quality is totally subpar to the v-1 and that the v1 totally owns the Bell units and anything else on the road I find that just a bit over the top there buddy. It just isn't true. I own a v1 and know all it's pluses and minuses. In my opinion the display and a whole lot more really needs to be updated to 2008 standard and also to show a whole lot more information and show it a lot better.

of course this is only my opinion.
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stalkervision,

I wouldn't rule any possibility out.

Given the recent radar detector and laser jammer product announcements by Beltronics and Escort at CES 2008, as well as Cobra and Uniden (and Whistler isn't standing still either), I would be surprised if the engineering wizards at Valentine Research didn't have something really exciting up their sleeves for us laser/radar die-hard fanatics.

This is really great news, as we will all be beneficiaries of these new product developments!

Think about all the innovative new products that have appeared in just the last year or two.

I believe these are some of the most exciting times for us drivers!

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stalkervision,

Who cares, my opinion vs your opinion, both radar detectors do what there suppose to do. I like the V1, just the way it is. I don't care for all those other gizmos and gadgets on radar detectors. I like plain and simple, thats why I like the V1... I love the arrows and will stick with those over the BEEP! BEEP radar detectors. The arrows come in handy at night too.


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Why is it the passion surrounding the V1 tends to be so intense/contentious? This I can never understand.

S/V...I don't either. I own a v1 and yes it has an advantages with the arrows but they don't make it a world beater over any other really good detector..

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Personally I like/appreciate them all and happily drive with any of the top performing radar detectors, in today's world, they all have their pluses [and minuses] but they're all so damn good today!
S/V..I can totally agree with this.

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Can we all be agreeably disagreeable? No need to bash anyone to make a point.
SV/ certainly as long as broad statements of any particular detector's superiority don't rear their ugly heads..


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Remember we are all on the same side, at the end of the day, regardless of the tools we each choose to use.

SV/ I can agree with that.


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I know the Guys of Lidar have taken a lot of hits for testing with radar-absorbing foam, however I think it is important to remember, whatever the setup was, all of the radar detectors were presented with the same environment.

SV/ I have a real problem with that one. Just because they were used in the same enviroment doesn't make the test a good one.


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And frankly, mind blowing tests which demonstrate 10-mile plus ranges don't amount to much in the real-world, in my opinion. When has anyone really received such warnings in areas where we spend most of the time driving..
SV/ I have yet to see GOL make what one would consider "real world tests" They are always skewing the antenna in unrealistic ways to lessen the signal because they haven't found a good testing area yet apparently. Now they are putting radar absorbing foam on the radar antennas? No one can really tell how this in reality effects the particular radar's output or the reception of a particular radar detector. These guys aren't police radar engineers after all...


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In their defense, they did attempt to test [without interference] in the vastness of the AZ desert even though they ended-up [unfortunately] being interfered with in the end.

SV/ nothing to stop them now from using the same or better site is there now?


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While individually we each may have disagreements with their techniques or approaches, I do believe they [the core team] are well intended.
SV...They may be "well intended" but ever hear this quotation? "The road to hell is paved with good intentions.."


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Finally, for what its worth, I know Jimbonzzz, and he is about as sharp as they come, IMO.

SV..Jim is sharp no doubt but he isn't quite as sharp as he believes..

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And, when Roy owned and operated his radar detector retailing business, I believe his customer support and dedication to his customers were at the highest levels I have ever seen. I really can't say I know of one RadarBusters customer which had a legitimately bad experience in all of my years working with him...he was that dedicated to his business and his customers.

SV/.. Roy "has gone straight" apparently. I am glad for that. Probably a condition of his probation. Only kidding..

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There are a lot of "takers" in this business, I like to think that Radar Roy gave much more back than most (and still does). To be entirely candid, although I was thrilled for Roy personally, I am sorry that he sold his business, because he was a real pleasure to work with on a day-to-day basis and I believe this industry would not have been as strong (certainly not as fun) had he not been involved with it.

SV/ Like i said I am glad he pleases people now and not the other way around..

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SV... I have always found your reviews of different radar detector products the most straight up honest opinions I have ever read.

Keep up the good work Vailguy!
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stalkervision,

Fair enough. I have always tried to play it straight down the middle, thanks for noticing.

I hope to...

GoL are not radar engineers, yes that's true...nor does the GoL claim to be, I believe they're enthusiasts just like their website states.

To their credit, I believe the GoL was the first group to actually point out a potential 33.8Ghz Ka issue that appeared on certain early STi Driver radar detectors which has since been corrected by Beltronics...and that was a good thing

Peace and thanks for playing...

Veil Guy

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