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Speed Cameras - Photo Enforcement Discussion of photo radar/photo lidar speed cameras from Autovelox, GATSO[meter], Multanova, and Redflex deployed internationally.

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Living in Arizona, wild west and all, I never thought photo enforcement would catch on. I watched Town of Paradise Valley start using speed monitoring vans, instal a red light camera. I was sure in such an upscale area, full of lawyers, it would stop. It didn't. Then other communities jumped on the photo enforcement gravey train. I could avoid these areas......for a while. Then it came to where I live, Scottsdale. Scottsdale, with dollar signs in their councils eyes, has gone photo crazy! They installed cameras on the freeway as a "test", and have now turned the responcibility over to the Highway Patrol.

Scottsdale started with Redflex, but changed to ATS just this month. Both companies have corporate offices in Scottsdale. Our 2 Scottsdale judges rubber stamp citation convictions without question. They look the other way concerning proper "serving" of the citation. I too am sickened at this mess.

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SF,

Can you elaborate a bit on the particulars of the change in AZ? Does this mean the RedFlex is completely out, equipment and all services and ATS is completely in? Or does this mean that the fee structure that was originally put into place was changed dramatically? If the HP is now operating them, are these violations pointable offenses? Are the red light cameras also being changed? I believe American Traffic Solutions (ATS) is still the equipment of choice, no?

In so far as your fight: It's still not too late, my friend.

Fortunately, the citizens of your "fine" state can excercise their power of the vote...to vote the supporters OUT of office.

It should be faily easy to discover the voting records of the state representatives who voted their support, as well as the distinguished men and women, who did not.

Please feel free to record their vote along with their names [and party affiliation] under the economics & politics section of this forum. Come election time, they can answer to those opposed to their agenda.

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the City is actually taking over the running of the cameras themselves and are essentially subcontracting it to ATS.

The new ATS cameras are up and mounted on seperate poles right next to the old Redflex cameras. Redflex poles will be taken down later. Initially it looks like they are using the same induvtive loops in the pavement surface for speed measurement.

As regards whether Redflex or ATS are running the show it's pretty academic. This may be completely wrong but for some reason I seem to remember reading years ago that ATS were have huge financial difficulties and that Redflex bought ATS out but kept them running as a going concern.

I don't have time to check it out just now but it might be interesting to see if Redflex still own ATS. It would certainly be an issue for any city that was only considering RLC bids from Redflex and ATS. Surely there would be the potential for a huge conflict of interest and the possibility of bid rigging.

Just a thought.

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Ally,

Is that to say that, in fact, there is a financial connection between both companies (or ownership)?

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