Spectre/Stalcar Mark IV+ vs. radar detectors

Veil Guy · #6 (**permalink**) IP: 66.105.144.9 2008-01-31

GB,

They're also restricted from operation in many countries around the globe...let's not forget this, especially when you consider we are living in a day of a global marketplace. Stealth Microsystems, certainly understands this.

Veil Guy

steagall1000 · #7 (**permalink**) IP: 74.228.207.42 2008-01-31

Veil Guy,

Thanks, for the reply, I never really looked at it that way. I just look at it in the USA not overseas. I wonder why mike valentine doesn't put this software in his units?? Has anyone ever asked him??

GB

Craig · #8 (**permalink**) IP: 68.2.133.82 2008-01-31

Steagall100:

If only software were required to defeat an RDD, more companies would have tried it. But it takes quite a bit more.

The cheap fix was shifting to a new LO frequency, something nearly everyone had done by the mid-nineties. Once the Spectre/Stalcar RDD arrived and was able to detect every one of them, the smart radar detector companies knew it'd take more than another LO shift to defeat it indefinitely.

The latest V1 is very well shielded to limit LO emissions, which cut its detection range by the Spectre by about 2/3. But it's still detectable, just at less range.

BEL took a clean-sheet approach and designed the STi from day one to defeat the RDD: new LO frequency, elaborate LO shielding, etc. The 9500i seems to have benefited from the new LO as well.

This all cost major bucks, tough to justify in a low- or medium-priced detector that probably won't sell in large numbers in area where detectors may happen to be illegal.

Craig

steagall1000 · #9 (**permalink**) IP: 74.228.207.42 2008-01-31

I did not know it was not software related. I stand corrected. Thanks for the Info on this stuff craig.

Very helpful information.

Peace,

Georgia Boy

Veil Guy · #10 (**permalink**) IP: 192.168.0.1 2008-01-31

steagall1000,

I wouldn't even pretend/presume to speak for (or even to) Valentine Research's and/or Mr. Valentine's development plans.

All I will say is they have earned a tremendous amount of respect from myself both personally and professionally with their obvious commitment to producing, arguably, the most consistently sensitive and technically engineered high performance microwave (and infrared) receiver for such a long period of time.

As an engineer (at my core), I appreciate their technical prowess (as I do Beltronics, Escort, and Whistler).

I would expect, if Valentine Research makes an justification internally for developing such a Valentine radar detector (dare I say, a Valentine 2, V2) and it makes a good business case, then they will do it.

I also respect their need for "privacy." I would not presume to set the business development agenda(s) for another company (either privately or publicly), frankly, as it's difficult enough for myself to set them for my own company, Veil.

GB, you may not be aware that an Australian company (same country that, not coincidentally, brings us the Spectre RDDs) called Australian Radar Detection Services did customize conventional Valentine 1's into being undetectable to the Spectre Mk. III (US)/Stalcar AC/3-Plus (International) radar detector detector, RDD.

Several years ago, I had the pleasure of tooling around the West (2k miles) with our company promotional stealth Viper with an officer (and friend) of ARDS with one of their customized stealth undetectable V1s. It performed brilliantly...So the technical capability to produce a Spectre RDD undetectable V1, has proven to be very possible.

As an optimist (at heart), it wouldn't surprise me in the least, IF the technical wizards of Valentine Research engineering staff, eventually produced one (or should I say two, as in V2).

Trust me, R&D takes a tremendous amount of time, energy, commitment, financial resources, and, yes, privacy.

I appreciate and respect that...

Veil Guy