Originally Posted by Speed Trap Hunter
Thanks for noticing, we are really trying to be different here and the fact that you can see this is very heartening to hear!
No problem STH
I have been an admin myself for many forums for many, many years, and am now moderating for the forum software that you use so I know how a kind word is appreciated
Please keep up the good work. It sets this forum above the others
I feel the ZR4's have gotten a "bad-rap" online from some of the fixed testings that have been performed (often suggesting JTG is the only acceptable outcome of such tests). I disagree with such acid tests' "conclusions."
So do I. A jammer has one
purpose and one purpose only, and that is to buy the driver some time to slow down to the posted speed limit. Once that happens no one can (or should) expect any more from their jammer. It has already saved you and performed its task. This is one of the reasons why it upsets me so much when I see uneducated users of jammers trying to JTG. That cannot only hurt the person trying to JTG, but it also hurts the jamming community as a whole. Once a person has reached the posted speed limit
it's time to turn the jammer off, thank God that you didn't get a ticket, and responsibly be on your way. The majority of tests that I have seen on the Internet are not conducted in a real world way, so I take them with a grain of salt
I am going to have to reevaluate the ZR4 as they may not be as bad as some people say. Thanks.
fixed tripods and low-speed passes aren't typical and generally favor the countermeasures used
This one confuses me. Wouldn't a tripod make the test more accurate
, as it takes the human element out of the test and puts "machine against machine
" so to speak? From that point on, when a real LEO tries to scan you with his laser gun since they won't be holding the gun as steady, their results will be worse
than with the tripod. That's how I understand it anyway. As far as Veil goes, for the longest time I used only
Veil and it has always worked great. Just wish it was a little less conspicuous though, but I will always continue to support and use it.
Originally Posted by Veil Guy
When I stood-up for the targets of such hit-pieces, I was thrown under the bus by many (even other Admins/Mods) who felt it easier to believe the source(s) of such tests/videos. I stood (and continue to stand-by) my position which I clearly expressed at the time.
Veil Guy PLEASE do not ever buckle under the pressure from those spreading misinformation, propaganda and rhetoric. I have always respected and admired you because of your honesty, and it helps to keep others like myself strong when debating those that you talked about. Nothing is more important to me than the unvarnished
truth. We need more people like you in this community
the owner/operator of the site felt the controversy helped drive traffic to it and was content to leave the manufacturer(s) that helped originally build-up the site to hang out to twist in the wind
In the forum software business this is rule #101 for generating new members and getting old members to post. Just create a controversy and people will be attracted to it like a magnet. A good admin will squash it, but a admin looking to grow (needed to attract advertisers) will too many times just turn a blind eye and let the madness continue
I left that site because I could not trust what I was reading on it. It has become a sort of 'National Enquirer' tabloid for the countermeasures community. You know, well known in name and untrustworthy in information. I know many people who have stopped going there. I go to a forum to be educated and to learn about a topic (in this case countermeasures) and not to be manipulated by shills. Because anyone
can post anything
on you-tube, I do not use it as a source of credible information either. I do think that the countermeasures community will clean itself up over the next couple of years. Too many people are sick and tired of all of the bickering, soap operas and nonsensical games being played by those willing to mislead just to make money. Hopefully that will happen sooner than later.