Speed Trap Hunter Forum: Best Radar Detectors, Laser Jammers, Laser Detectors, Speed Cameras Forum  

Go Back   Speed Trap Hunter Forum: Best Radar Detectors, Laser Jammers, Laser Detectors, Speed Cameras Forum > Speed Trap Countermeasures > Laser Jammers
Radar Detectors Forum Logon:


Laser Jammers Discussion forum related to laser jammers and laser jamming.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)   IP: 93.172.236.216
Old 2009-03-19
knfevg knfevg is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: 2009 Mar
Posts: 0
knfevg is on a distinguished road
Default Choosing a perfect protection system

Hello to everybody.
Until now I was driving on a regular family sedan (Mazda6) but starting next month I'm buying a new Impreza WRX (YeeppEEE). This will obviously will put me under some danger of speeding tickets.
In Israel we have several police "weapons" for speeding:
Laser LTI-2020 (The most popular and dangerous thing they have)
MPH BEE3
F6 and F6A radar
VASCAR 5000 (currently there is no protection from this one as far as I know).

I'm looking for a solution that will protect me from these things with the LTI-2020 laser being the major issue.
I was thinking to buy the top of the line laser jammer and radar detector.
This way I'll stay protected from the "laser shots" and will know (and have enough time to slow down) when in range of a radar camera.
Please point me to a good (the best) set of equipment for my needs or to a site that have good reviews about them.

Thanks allot
Evgeny
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)   IP: 76.190.193.28
Old 2009-03-19
TSi+WRX TSi+WRX is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: 2008 Sep
Location: Cleveland/Shaker Heights, Ohio, USA
Posts: 44
TSi+WRX is on a distinguished road
Default

Overall, I'd favor pairing one of the top-flight (or second-tier) in-vehicle stand-alone RADAR/LASER detectors (so that you can take it and use it in another vehicle, such as a vacation rental or service loaner), with a top-flight active LASER jammer, plus point-protection on any specific weakness (i.e. VEIL G4 on lighting elements, as well as LaserShield or other such plate dressing [just search "plate dressing" using the Forum search function, and you'll find plenty of discussion on this subject]).

Don't skimp on the jammer - you'll want something good, either the Blinder Mx5 (where x = 2, 3, or 4, denoting the number of heads) J16 revision or, alternatively, the Laser Interceptor.

With the detector, any of the top-flights will do - performance wise, unless you're a speed-detection countermeasures hobbyist, you're honestly looking at splitting hairs....instead, the choice between a Valentine Research V1, Escort 9500i or ix, or the Beltronics GX/RX series or their STi-Driver should honestly depend on your own user end-preferences and desires.

"Second-tier" detectors such as the Escort 8500 X50 or the Bel Vectors - or the upper-end offerings from Whistler - will also be just fine, even for spirited drivers, and can be a good cost-for-performance consideration.

If budget is a concern, going with a "second tier" detector will save you a not-insignificant amount of up-front costs, but should not significantly decrease your overall "protective envelope." Given the capability of these second-tier detectors, they can also well serve as a backup and/or alternate-vehicle-use detector, when and if you do decide to upgrade, at a later date.

Also, remember, while currently the Bel/Escort units (GX65 and 9500i/ix, respectively) offer integrated GPS-warning capability to fixed monitored enforcement threats, you can still couple the V1 or the Bel STi-Driver with the SpeedCheetah GPS-Mirror or their stand-alone C100 unit, and using the Detector Interface, obtain much the same benefits (lifetime Trinity database access/updates, in the case of the Cheetah products) of the Bel/Escort detectors.

-----

In terms of the 9500ci/Bel STi-R, unless you are certain you only want to equip one vehicle, this will be a consideration. Similarly, their high cost may or may not be completely justified by their performance (depending on who you ask, particularly when it comes to LIDAR protection, as these systems utilize the Escort ZR4 Laser Shifter as their active LIDAR jamming component) - keeping in mind that much of the cost does go towards the absolute-integrated install of these very specialized devices.

-----

Congrats also on the new car.

My wife's lease on her '05 WRX sedan is coming to an end. We're going to look at a replacement tomorrow - sighting in on the '09 Impreza 2.5GT (yes, the automatic, my wife can't drive stick and refuses to learn, and yes, this means that her current WRX is also a 4EAT) 5-door, the Legacy 2.5GT or 3.0R sedans, or the Forester 2.5XT....

Sigh - I wish we were looking at a '09 WRX.

BTW, check out NASIOC - the North American Subaru Owners Club. It's a virtual treasure-chest of information and knowledge. Just be forewarned that the environment there is somewhat toxic ( it's not nicknamed "NastyCock" in the Subaru enthusiast circles for no reason :lol: ). BE SURE that you do your homework before posting there, with exhaustive searches, or else be prepared to reap a whirlwind of flames!

For an "easier" and friendlier introduction to the world of Subarus, look up your LOCAL (not "regional NASIOC chapter," as even that can be rather nasty) Subaru enthusiast owners clubs. Having real-world face-time can make all the difference. Similarly, the Subaru enthusiast network is extensive, and you can often get servicing for your car (or just helping hands, if you're already mechanically inclined) for very cheap, with your fellow local enthusiasts.




TSi+WRX's Sig:- Allen/Usual Suspect "DumboRAT"/One of the Three Stooges

LI Rev.2.8, Ver.7.03 - quad 8.0A-f w/ 8.5 Slim-r
LPP v8.3h(CAN/AU)/10.1s, 2xF/1xR
9500i, Red (4307) w/ZR3
VEIL G4
CR8APL8s, w/LaserShield(F)
Cheetah GPS-Mirror

[ Wifey's FXT -> Bue 8500x50 (Rev.5); LI Rev.2.9, Ver.7.08 - dual 8.5 ]

Me: '05 Legacy 2.5GT Ltd., mildly modified
Wifey: '09 Forester XT, barely modded
Baby-Anna: too short to reach any pedals!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)   IP: 74.244.93.194
Old 2009-03-19
category4 category4 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: 2008 Aug
Location: Dacula, GA
Posts: 4
category4 is on a distinguished road
Default

For a laser jammer I would use the Laser Interceptor, 2 heads for front and if rear protection is needed 2 additional heads in the rear.

My personal preference for radar detectors is the Escort 9500ci. It is pricey but also includes the ZR4 laser jammers as well. They are a weaker jammer but great receivers. Mine almost always alert a split second before my V1 or my LI.


category4's Sig:On the Vette:

Valentine V1 (pop off, x band off, volume off) It is a radar locator now not a detector.

Escort 9500ci

Laser Interceptor 4 head (2 front - 2 rear)

V1 and Blinder M45/J15 on Ford F-150

V1 on the Cadillac SRX
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)   IP: 71.31.242.176
Old 2009-03-19
steagall1000 steagall1000 is offline
Banned Indefinitely
 
Join Date: 2007 Jul
Location: Homer, Georgia
Posts: 30
steagall1000 is on a distinguished road
Default Personal favorite

My personal favorite is the "Blinder M45 Xtreme Laser Jammer" front and rear protection and the "V1 Radar detector". Its a perfect setup up for your vehicle and will give excellant performance.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)   IP: 87.68.35.184
Old 2009-03-20
knfevg knfevg is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: 2009 Mar
Posts: 0
knfevg is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TSi+WRX View Post
Overall, I'd favor pairing one of the top-flight (or second-tier) in-vehicle stand-alone RADAR/LASER detectors (so that you can take it and use it in another vehicle, such as a vacation rental or service loaner), with a top-flight active LASER jammer, plus point-protection on any specific weakness (i.e. VEIL G4 on lighting elements, as well as LaserShield or other such plate dressing [just search "plate dressing" using the Forum search function, and you'll find plenty of discussion on this subject]).

Don't skimp on the jammer - you'll want something good, either the Blinder Mx5 (where x = 2, 3, or 4, denoting the number of heads) J16 revision or, alternatively, the Laser Interceptor.

With the detector, any of the top-flights will do - performance wise, unless you're a speed-detection countermeasures hobbyist, you're honestly looking at splitting hairs....instead, the choice between a Valentine Research V1, Escort 9500i or ix, or the Beltronics GX/RX series or their STi-Driver should honestly depend on your own user end-preferences and desires.

"Second-tier" detectors such as the Escort 8500 X50 or the Bel Vectors - or the upper-end offerings from Whistler - will also be just fine, even for spirited drivers, and can be a good cost-for-performance consideration.

If budget is a concern, going with a "second tier" detector will save you a not-insignificant amount of up-front costs, but should not significantly decrease your overall "protective envelope." Given the capability of these second-tier detectors, they can also well serve as a backup and/or alternate-vehicle-use detector, when and if you do decide to upgrade, at a later date.

Also, remember, while currently the Bel/Escort units (GX65 and 9500i/ix, respectively) offer integrated GPS-warning capability to fixed monitored enforcement threats, you can still couple the V1 or the Bel STi-Driver with the SpeedCheetah GPS-Mirror or their stand-alone C100 unit, and using the Detector Interface, obtain much the same benefits (lifetime Trinity database access/updates, in the case of the Cheetah products) of the Bel/Escort detectors.

-----

In terms of the 9500ci/Bel STi-R, unless you are certain you only want to equip one vehicle, this will be a consideration. Similarly, their high cost may or may not be completely justified by their performance (depending on who you ask, particularly when it comes to LIDAR protection, as these systems utilize the Escort ZR4 Laser Shifter as their active LIDAR jamming component) - keeping in mind that much of the cost does go towards the absolute-integrated install of these very specialized devices.

-----

Congrats also on the new car.

My wife's lease on her '05 WRX sedan is coming to an end. We're going to look at a replacement tomorrow - sighting in on the '09 Impreza 2.5GT (yes, the automatic, my wife can't drive stick and refuses to learn, and yes, this means that her current WRX is also a 4EAT) 5-door, the Legacy 2.5GT or 3.0R sedans, or the Forester 2.5XT....

Sigh - I wish we were looking at a '09 WRX.

BTW, check out NASIOC - the North American Subaru Owners Club. It's a virtual treasure-chest of information and knowledge. Just be forewarned that the environment there is somewhat toxic ( it's not nicknamed "NastyCock" in the Subaru enthusiast circles for no reason :lol: ). BE SURE that you do your homework before posting there, with exhaustive searches, or else be prepared to reap a whirlwind of flames!

For an "easier" and friendlier introduction to the world of Subarus, look up your LOCAL (not "regional NASIOC chapter," as even that can be rather nasty) Subaru enthusiast owners clubs. Having real-world face-time can make all the difference. Similarly, the Subaru enthusiast network is extensive, and you can often get servicing for your car (or just helping hands, if you're already mechanically inclined) for very cheap, with your fellow local enthusiasts.

TSi+WRX:
THANKS FOR THE SUPER ANSWER!!!!! It ABSOLUTLY GREAT!!!
I went over all of the products you were telling about and have a few questions:
1. After checking all of the GPS-BASED-PROTECTORS I've found that its of no use to me. NONE of them has databases of Israel so I can not use it.
2. As LTI2020 and Ka band is the msot important thing for me, I have to focus on them.
3. I was planning to alocate something like 1000USD to the full system. After I've seen the fully-intergrated-systems I started thinking that maybe its a good idea. Specificaly the STI-R or the RX75. The 9500ci looks good but once again - I dont need GPS. What is the differance between the STI-r and the RX75PLUS? Can you tell me more about pro/cons of these integrated systems?
4. The setup I'm starting to look on (if not the integrated) is Valentine1 + M45. What do you think?

Based on your nick I see you also drive TSi? Which car (Golf, Passat?)? What type of TSi (120 or 160 bhp? ). How do you like it?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Best Budget System: Stealth Enthusiast Radar Detectors 2 2009-07-14 19:16
NOT BACKING DOWN: Crump Calls System Illegal NMA Reporter News 1 2009-05-10 10:04
Ford’s MyKey System: The Rise Of The Mom Culture NMA Reporter NMA Articles 0 2008-11-01 06:27
Topic: Rear Protection steagall1000 Video: Police Laser (LIDAR) 6 2008-10-08 21:02
Switzerland Prefers Cars Despite Expensive Transit System NMA Reporter Economics & Politics 0 2008-04-21 08:22


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 20:20.


©2019 SpeedTrapHunter