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Old 2008-03-03
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Drivers these days seem to be getting worse and worse. Teenagers are especially poor drivers. Everybody's had a run in with a teenage girl driving a GMC Yukon right out of drivers ed or some kid in his fast and furious edition Honda Civic. Roads today are flat out dangerous due to these unskilled drivers. Two years ago I started drivers ed and found out exactly how low the standards are. Walking in the door I had over 40hrs more experience behind the wheel of a car than the next person.(12 hrs) On top of that we were allowed to retake all the tests until we passed, regardless of how hard it was to fail. I cant help but feel that my high insurance and "inexperienced' public view are a direct result of organizations like the one I attended doing the very least for their students. Have Drivers ED schools always been so bad?
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Drivers Ed back when I was in high School was horrible. These teachers don't care whether you pass or not. Hell half of the drivers Ed teachers can't drive worth a Sh..! So yes it hasn't gotten much better. And with all of the illegals coming in our country, the highways are never safe to drive on.
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You guys are both wrong. I'm sorry to hear that your experiences with Driver's Ed. weren't very positive, but I can assure you that not all Drv.Ed programs are corrupt. I teach classroom and behind-the-wheel Driver's Ed. (BTW). I have dealt with quite a few bad driver's and I can assure that the reason for their poor performance is not the fault of the instructors in our school. We require the students to gain 50 hrs. of driving experience once they receive their permit and before they begin BTW. Without fail every summer, half the kids show up to BTW having barely been behind the wheel of a car thinking that they can just coast through the course. Some of them are such poor driver's that they can't even manuever around an empty parking lot. Unfortunately, I and my colleagues have to fail these students because it would be nothing short or irresponsibility to allow them to obtain a license and very possibly compromise public safety. We try to explain to the students and their parents that their failure is a matter of safety and that more driving experience will give them the preparation that they need. Of course they usually want to place the blame everywhere other than where it belongs, and they expect the instructor to make extra time for them to drive instead of doing it themselves. It is impossible to spend an absorbent amount of time with one student because of the vast number of students who need to take Driver's Ed. during the summer. This is no different than teaching in the classroom. A teacher will teach their students and offer assistance within reason, but it is the students responsibility to complete their homework and study for tests. The teacher cannot hold up the entire class for just one student. The student may need to get a tutor or come to the realization that they simply can't handle the work load of the class.

Yes, there are those who cut corners in all professions, but placing all of the onus on one school/instructor is a cheap cop-out. It's much easier to throw stones than to look in the mirror and assume responsibility for one's self.
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Dark Shark,

I'm not saying they are all bad. But alot of them just don't take the time with their students that they should. Its kinda like the public schools versus private schools. Have ever noticed that Private schools out score public schools in ACT and SAT testing. Drivers ED is the same way. It all comes down to the type of instructor you have. You will not change my mind on this, so please don't try. I think its good that we all give our opinions regardless of who's right and who's wrong. Yes there are alot of great drivers ED teachers out there in the school systems. However there are some pretty bad ones out there also. Hopefully My child will get a good one in his school.



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You guys are both wrong. I'm sorry to hear that your experiences with Driver's Ed. weren't very positive, but I can assure you that not all Drv.Ed programs are corrupt. I teach classroom and behind-the-wheel Driver's Ed. (BTW). I have dealt with quite a few bad driver's and I can assure that the reason for their poor performance is not the fault of the instructors in our school. We require the students to gain 50 hrs. of driving experience once they receive their permit and before they begin BTW. Without fail every summer, half the kids show up to BTW having barely been behind the wheel of a car thinking that they can just coast through the course. Some of them are such poor driver's that they can't even manuever around an empty parking lot. Unfortunately, I and my colleagues have to fail these students because it would be nothing short or irresponsibility to allow them to obtain a license and very possibly compromise public safety. We try to explain to the students and their parents that their failure is a matter of safety and that more driving experience will give them the preparation that they need. Of course they usually want to place the blame everywhere other than where it belongs, and they expect the instructor to make extra time for them to drive instead of doing it themselves. It is impossible to spend an absorbent amount of time with one student because of the vast number of students who need to take Driver's Ed. during the summer. This is no different than teaching in the classroom. A teacher will teach their students and offer assistance within reason, but it is the students responsibility to complete their homework and study for tests. The teacher cannot hold up the entire class for just one student. The student may need to get a tutor or come to the realization that they simply can't handle the work load of the class.

Yes, there are those who cut corners in all professions, but placing all of the onus on one school/instructor is a cheap cop-out. It's much easier to throw stones than to look in the mirror and assume responsibility for one's self.

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