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Grassroots Testing As the online community has evolved in its collective knowledge over the years, more and more independent grassroots efforts have developed as an offshoot from the original Guys of Lidar online enthusiast testing group. This is their story. The opinions expressed by these groups are solely their own and not necessarily representative of speedtraphunter.net.

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My question is the same as happya$$'s -

What the heck?

Who/what does Stealth Enthusiast represent?


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To be clear, we all know that RD.NET is the 800lb gorilla. Many cross posters (like yourself), but I would prefer a bit of compartmentalization for OUR OWN COMMUNITY HEALTH's sake.
But that, again, cuts both ways.

It may be good to be apart - but the lack of free information exchange will be to the detriment of *BOTH* communities.

RE: Jammer "seeing" the incoming threat -
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Yes but your jammer doesn't really need to have the incoming view at all times. It’s like the wild, wild west, and your jammer just needs to be the first one to "draw". That is what buys you time to slow down, and once a person slows down to the posted speed limit it doesn't matter what the LEO does or is doing. The key in winning this LEO VS. jammer showdown is that your car needs to be quick in responding to the LIDAR signal. Whatever signal reaches (back to) the LEO's LIDAR gun first (his gun or your jammers signal) is what is going to determine who 'wins'. Passive measures dramatically help your jammer to win.
Correct, the jammer only has to win the fast-draw.

But the problem is that sometimes, the jammer, due to placement (which may be limited by vehicle configuration), fails to see the initial hit, at all.

You're right, the jammer doesn't need to see the incoming at all times - it only needs to see it initially, and only enough so that the driver is able to slow-to-reasonable/PSL.

I also agree, a quick response is a quick response, and necessary, yes - but without seeing it, at all, FIRST, it's a simple lose, right then and there, in terms solely of the active jammer's role.

This has been seen many times in close-in encounters, and is also illustrated well by IRCM[USA]'s then groundbreaking IR-video, so long ago, and which has now been adopted as the "Gold Standard" of testing (although this has been exploited, nevetheless, *proper*, honorable, and real use of this type of videography is currently ideal for demonstrating a jammer's many functions).

Those IR videos were the first of their kind, nearly 3 years ago, now, and proved, conclusively, that when the jammer doesn't see the incoming, it's simply time to board the FailBoat.


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LI Rev.2.8, Ver.7.03 - quad 8.0A-f w/ 8.5 Slim-r
LPP v8.3h(CAN/AU)/10.1s, 2xF/1xR
9500i, Red (4307) w/ZR3
VEIL G4
CR8APL8s, w/LaserShield(F)
Cheetah GPS-Mirror

[ Wifey's FXT -> Bue 8500x50 (Rev.5); LI Rev.2.9, Ver.7.08 - dual 8.5 ]

Me: '05 Legacy 2.5GT Ltd., mildly modified
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