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Grassroots Testing As the online community has evolved in its collective knowledge over the years, more and more independent grassroots efforts have developed as an offshoot from the original Guys of Lidar online enthusiast testing group. This is their story. The opinions expressed by these groups are solely their own and not necessarily representative of speedtraphunter.net.

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Physics play a role, light, reflectivity, refraction.
Yes but unfortunately no one is going to be able to change the shape of their vehicle like a B-2, or change what their vehicle is made out of. Ultimately what is needed is a clear wax-type of coating that people can use on their cars, but that's probably not coming around for a while. Modifying the cars reflectivity is probably the most realistic approach right now.

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Given that we can only cover so much of the vehicle's profile with any particular jammer setup there will be times - for whatever reason - when the incoming beam escapes the jammer's "view."
Yes but your jammer doesn't really need to have the incoming view at all times. It’s like the wild, wild west, and your jammer just needs to be the first one to "draw". That is what buys you time to slow down, and once a person slows down to the posted speed limit it doesn't matter what the LEO does or is doing. The key in winning this LEO VS. jammer showdown is that your car needs to be quick in responding to the LIDAR signal. Whatever signal reaches (back to) the LEO's LIDAR gun first (his gun or your jammers signal) is what is going to determine who 'wins'. Passive measures dramatically help your jammer to win.

I believe that a persons vehicle needs a good foundation to build upon in this countermeasures war between 'them and us'. Instead of buying a jammer and then adding passive measures like a cherry on top of ice cream, I think it makes much more sense to first add something like Veil and a plate cover to your car, and then start adding jammers(s).
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Yes but unfortunately no one is going to be able to change the shape of their vehicle like a B-2, or change what their vehicle is made out of. Ultimately what is needed is a clear wax-type of coating that people can use on their cars, but that's probably not coming around for a while. Modifying the cars reflectivity is probably the most realistic approach right now.
Stay tuned on that front, something, I believe, has been in the works for quite a long time...

...And you are quite correct about establishing this good foundation, first.

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Stay tuned on that front, something, I believe, has been in the works for quite a long time...
Oh great.... now I won't be able to get any sleep
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but that's probably not coming around for a while.
Rest well...it may be sooner than you may have otherwise, believed.

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Now that you have identified that you are representing a company, I must inquirer what that company is and what are your intentions? And time is of the essence, here for a response, either privately or publicly.

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