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I mean this in the most sincere and kindest way...you guys are a "Wikipedia" of information when it comes to laser jammers. I sincerely, appreciate the amount of time and effort that each of you have taken in giving me numerous possibilities to consider for the best protection.

I realize that no system is "perfect" and that there are risk, and as has been stated from all of you, that responsible driving is the best option. My main objective through the use of a quality radar detector, VEIL, and quality laser jammer is to give myself any advantage possible to help me get under the speed limit in those times when I have strayed too close to the edge.

I will do some homework, even if it means approaching a trooper or local law enforcement by striking up a conversation regarding their speed detection tools. All they can say is "no". Though, I am not originally from Louisiana, I have come to learn that traffic citations are big business down here and if they are going to try and get some of my hard earned money, then I certainly intend on making them earn ever penny...LOL!

Thanks again, guys. I will keep you posted on what I find out and what direction I take...with photos.

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I assume the first thing I should do is remove my front license plate that has our school colors. Front plates are not required here. What a shame. I liked this thing. Oh, well!
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I mean this in the most sincere and kindest way...you guys are a "Wikipedia" of information when it comes to laser jammers. I sincerely, appreciate the amount of time and effort that each of you have taken in giving me numerous possibilities to consider for the best protection.
No need to thank me at all, I'm just another hobbyist, like you.

I can't speak for steagall, but I'm certainly no expert, and I continue to learn new things each and every day.

I'm just glad to pass along what little I know to those new to the hobby, so that they can be brought up-to-speed and won't have to face a too-steep learning curve.

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I realize that no system is "perfect" and that there are risk, and as has been stated from all of you, that responsible driving is the best option. My main objective through the use of a quality radar detector, VEIL, and quality laser jammer is to give myself any advantage possible to help me get under the speed limit in those times when I have strayed too close to the edge.
^ Then for 99% of the time, you'll be just fine.

Typically, with such a realistic and reasonable attitude (as well as the qualification that you're not "hyperspeeding" at the time of the encounter), you're almost always going to have a "save." Indeed, for those of us who typically don't venture much above the accepted "10+ line," these countermeasures are precisely what will typically "save" us, when we accidentally stray too far above that set line.

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I will do some homework, even if it means approaching a trooper or local law enforcement by striking up a conversation regarding their speed detection tools. All they can say is "no". Though, I am not originally from Louisiana, I have come to learn that traffic citations are big business down here and if they are going to try and get some of my hard earned money, then I certainly intend on making them earn ever penny...LOL!
Indeed, all they can say is "no," but I think that you'll find most are quite receptive to genuinely interested citizens.

Take note of the *facts*of their candid presentation - not what they say about what they do or what they think they know, for as proven repeatedly, enforcers are just like everyone else, and their own knowledge-level and tradecraft varies just as greatly as you would think of a mechanic, artist, or doctor. Some are better at their job than others, and some are "better-knowledged" than others, too.

Look at their enforcement hardware, see what they use, that's most important - to match your countermeasures against their hardware in a strength-for-weakness manner, to give you the advantage.

But yes, sadly, Louisiana is known for traffic-enforcement being not totally what it seems:

Louisiana: Federally Funded Speed Trap Busted for Corruption



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I assume the first thing I should do is remove my front license plate that has our school colors. Front plates are not required here. What a shame. I liked this thing. Oh, well!
Correct, if the front plate is not required, the absolute best thing you can do is to remove it and not use it at all.

Even with the protection of LaserShield *and* VEIL, it will still present as a noted point-weakness that, frankly, if you can get away without, I would definitely encourage you to do so.

But before you go out there with your screwdriver or ratchet.....

Is this plate of yours metal/state-issue?

If it is just a plastic, decorative, plate, then it doesn't necessarily present much of a problem at all - and even less-so if you chose to "reinforce" this area with some "plate dressing," such as described below:

Best Veil and license plate cover/laser shield combo




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LI Rev.2.8, Ver.7.03 - quad 8.0A-f w/ 8.5 Slim-r
LPP v8.3h(CAN/AU)/10.1s, 2xF/1xR
9500i, Red (4307) w/ZR3
VEIL G4
CR8APL8s, w/LaserShield(F)
Cheetah GPS-Mirror

[ Wifey's FXT -> Bue 8500x50 (Rev.5); LI Rev.2.9, Ver.7.08 - dual 8.5 ]

Me: '05 Legacy 2.5GT Ltd., mildly modified
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Yes, my front plate is solely for decoration. It is a "House Divided" college football plate. It is not metal, but at least have of it has a mirrored style image causing it to be highly reflective. I'll probably end up yanking it. Might even say some gas...LOL!

Thanks again. I'll let you know what I find out regarding the devices down here.

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Yes, my front plate is solely for decoration. It is a "House Divided" college football plate. It is not metal, but at least have of it has a mirrored style image causing it to be highly reflective. I'll probably end up yanking it. Might even say some gas...LOL!
Yikes - yep, if it's mirrored, pulling it is best......


TSi+WRX's Sig:- Allen/Usual Suspect "DumboRAT"/One of the Three Stooges

LI Rev.2.8, Ver.7.03 - quad 8.0A-f w/ 8.5 Slim-r
LPP v8.3h(CAN/AU)/10.1s, 2xF/1xR
9500i, Red (4307) w/ZR3
VEIL G4
CR8APL8s, w/LaserShield(F)
Cheetah GPS-Mirror

[ Wifey's FXT -> Bue 8500x50 (Rev.5); LI Rev.2.9, Ver.7.08 - dual 8.5 ]

Me: '05 Legacy 2.5GT Ltd., mildly modified
Wifey: '09 Forester XT, barely modded
Baby-Anna: too short to reach any pedals!
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jaminic,

Like TSi+WRX said, I'm no expert either, like him i'm a hoddyist as well as a dealer. The only advice I can give you is based on the test I have conducted with different cars and different scenarios. I think its a great Idea if you can find out from your local PD what they use and how they shoot it. Most officers I know shoot center mass or head light. I hope everything that TSi+WRX and I have given you has helped in the way of information regarding your next purchase. Good luck.

Sincerly,

Scott
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