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SAD WTH are people thinking abusing our tools?


happya$$'s Sig:You want to buy from the most honest guy in the business then look no further than http://www.buyradardetectors.com/

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I agree with this 100%, Thank you for taking the time STH to share with us your thoughts and feelings on this subject. It means alot


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I hadn't actually watched the link that Scott posted until I get an unexpected message on my iPhone today from another STH member privately expressing concern.

While I don't believe this individual is actually participating on this site, Speed Trap Hunter, I do believe that could lead to some confusion since they (Fox News) referred to him as "Speed Trap Crasher."

I light of this and the potential challenges it may bring to our entire online community--either her or at rd.net--I think it is safe to suggest that we should all re-evaluate what we're doing here when we post our videos online to YouTube or via other social-media.

To be sure, I created this site as an alternative venue to rd.net to bring its own flavor to the online community, to act really as an educational bridge to help facilitate a mutual respect that comes from understanding potentially "competing interests."

With respect to Veil and my company's particular laser "countermeasure" designed for civilian use, it has never been my intention that our products be used, either in whole or in part, as a means to conduct oneself socially irresponsibly.

Rules and regulations (checks-and-balances) are there for a reason, to establish a certain "order" to things, a balance, if you will.

I believe the purpose of a radar detector (or in fact any "tool" called into service) is to simply provide its owner with sufficient awareness to enhance a driver's safe behavior on a public roadway that is subject to the "controls" put in place.

If would posit this nation--which I use as a my own self-induced "control" mechanism while I strive to drive safely:

If you are using a radar detector as a means to speed more, then I believe you are mis-using it.

If anything, a radar detector is one thing at its core, a tool to enhance (not replace) your situational awareness.


Perhaps going forward, any videos that anyone connected directly (as a participating member) show how these products can be used to enhance safety and not speed.

For example, with some of the latest videos that were posted to Speed Trap Hunter's Youtube channel were conducted "lawfully" in that I wasn't speeding.

I don't believe the lessons learned were any less than had I been "speeding."

A friend of mine, Craig Peterson, who is someone that I can to for getting some historical perspective on manned-traffic enforcement (of the past) and now automated forms, has on more than one occasion suggested that I use caution in the production of any videos that I personally may publish. I think he is correct, for our sakes. With our inherit freedoms-of-speech carries with it a burden to use our right(s) responsibly.

Perhaps that can be our own differentiator, "Speed Trap Hunter":

we're not speeders, but merely enthusiasts who share a collective passion for the driving experience and all the tools that we use that enhance our safe driving behaviors.

Guys, C4, how does that sound to you?

I would like to thank Scott and the STH member who PM'd me about it.

I hope this sufficiently address your concern(s) Scott.

STH

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Jaminic,

I could not have said this better myself. Lets "Stay Under the Radar"


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I appreciate the time you took to write this, STH. It is well thought out and respectfully written and I agree with it 100%. I respect the Law Enforcement community and the fact that they have a job to do as much as I respect our right to pursue a hobby in a responsible manner while enjoying the driving experience.

It is unfortunate that parties (a few) on both sides feel a need to push the envelope of what is and is not acceptable and thus creates an environment of distrust and antagonism. If they want to "clock" me then I will try to "block" them but I will not flaunt it in their faces.

Keep flying below the radar, guys.

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Will you agree not to JTG officers? That is as good as telling them that jammers do work.

Erick has proper procedure with his jammers and kills them when he is at or close to PSL which is the proper way to use a jammer
I agree that jamming officers and not allowing a fix only makes things worse and that is why I will not do it. The only time I can see this happening is if it is a close range hit where it does not allow time to get under the PSL.

We have to use our heads if we are going to use countermeasures to enjoy our driving experiences.
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