Red light Cameras coming to NJ

steagall1000 · #6 (**permalink**) 2008-01-10

Al,

How can we as drivers stop the government from doing this?? Voiceing my opinion doesn't seem to help. Maybe if everybody came together to fight this we might have a chance. I need some advice on this. What can we really do. Bob I know you have some feed back on this, with the cameras on interstates. lets hear it.

Georgia Boy

SpeedCheetahAl · #7 (**permalink**) 2008-01-10

Honest answer?

You're up against too many vested interests and it's too easy for politicians to put up the "we're doing this for safety reasons" argument. No amount of shouting is going to make a difference.

You've just got to let them run their course and be proved wrong over time - probably be 5-10 years before cameras will take a downturn. It's a big gravy train and it's going to take a long time to turn it around.

Basically it needs to get to the point where a huge number of drivers have been caught by them and feel that it was unjustified. The numbers have to be massive and get to a tipping point.

For example, there are about 23 million drivers in the UK (population circa 65 million.) In the last 10 years over 12 million drivers have had speeding fines and penalty points from cameras - that's more than half the driving population! and we're not at the tipping point yet. Some see it's getting close but there are too many vested interest keeping it going, not to mention over $300 million income a year for the UK treasury.

In the meantime perhaps the NMA and NRA can join forces?

steagall1000 · #8 (**permalink**) 2008-01-12

AL,

Now there is a great Idea, the NMA and NRA join forces. Ha! Ha! I love it. Thanks for the feed back on my questions.

GB

Veil Guy · #9 (**permalink**) 2008-02-09

SpeedCheetahAl,

Indeed, you are correct...But more than, I have feeling an overwhelming sense of patriotism and civic duty in publicly raising the awareness of these systems which come to our shores from across the "pond."

As did, Paul Revere, I am hanging two lanterns, to spread the word, not only to U.S. citizens, but to the world, and to serve as a beacon to individuals around the world who wholesale reject totalitarianistic tendencies of the collective societies. Welcome to the world of Globalization (which I am generally a supporter of, by the way). I would expect states governed by progressive leaders (code word for liberal) to support these oppressive enforcement tactics and to appoint supporting judges interested in further eroding our country's long-established and cherished civil liberties.

At least the Bush Administration appointed constructionist judges to the bench, so I expect this battle will continue to unfold at the state legislative and judiciary branches until a trip wire is set and it goes Federal leading to the Supreme Court.

To that end, I have a professional colleague and friend (a former prosecuting attorney) who lend assistance, in this regard.

Related Reading: The Supreme Court and Constitutional Interpretation [PDF]

Stay tuned...

Cheers.

Veil Guy

shaddy3 · #10 (**permalink**) 2008-03-17

I have "phantom plate"

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Clear plastic cover for tag, up close you can see the tiny metallic particles in it for distorting the camera flash, the cover also is bowed out somewhat on the sides, where the flash usually takes place. As far as I am concerned this whole thing is illegal, where is the complaining Officer or witness as written into the constitution?
Just another tax
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