The Ultimate Radar Detector

steagall1000 · #6 (**permalink**) 2008-10-04

Well said Veil Guy,

Now I kinda see what your getting at. I was looking at it the other way like the other radar detectors had no involvement in your Conclusion. If were talking about just Bel/escort and their development then I see no bias in what your trying to state. My point was I believe each radar detector has its own strenghts and weaknesses when comparing products against each other. Bel has great features and so does Escort. But I will not limit myself to just their development. I look at the Big picture, and take alittle from each companys development here and there. Thats all! Hey Veil guy, like you said at the end of the day we are all on the same team.

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Originally Posted by Veil Guy

I feel ya...

But in all seriousness, I was merely stating the ultimate radar detector for what could be realistically built today.

Of course, one could theoretically "pull" or "take" technology developed by other companies, and naming arrows and dual antennae design (front/rear) is an obvious "nice-to-have," but this technology from Beltronics and Escort has nothing to do with Valentine Research nor Whistler nor Cobra.

Pulling technology from every company is not realistic because each has their own intellectual property (ie; patents), which I respect, whether we're talking about radar detectors or laser jammers.

You want to regard that as being biased? I don't see that one.

I was merely limiting my discussion to the novel technology developed in-house by both Beltronics and Escort engineering teams and combining the best of each engineering team designs (which has been essentially a separate and independent functions in each respective company).

The Escort Passport 9500ci and the new Beltronics Pro GX65 (BEL GX65) represent something different from each company, in that they represent more of an amalgamation of the best of each of their companies' respective technologies.

My ultimate radar detector would essentially be an extrapolation of that joint development collaboration.

And to be entirely candid, I really am not missing the arrows since I have been experiencing the sheer performance of either the Beltronics and/or Passport remote installs.

Sure, the arrows were a nice to have, but I believe they're not essential and their absence doesn't in any way diminish the significance of either the Beltronics or Escort radar detectors or the engineering accomplishments of each company.

Do you believe this is a biased opinion? Actually, I proffer, it is a reasoned one.

No one has been more historically fair and intellectually honest towards the Valentine One in their reviews, than myself.

But, the simple fact is that these two other radar detectors are incredible and I am simply acknowledging their combined accomplishment.

Trust me, drive with either of them and you'll soon see what I mean.

Veil Guy

happya$$ · #7 (**permalink**) 2008-10-05

yeah I have to agree with Scott on this one

category4 · #8 (**permalink**) 2008-10-12

You both have your points, but since it is a wish list of sorts, I would like the V1 laser detections, arrows and ramp up along with STI-R's stealthness and radar sensativity and the GPS features of the 9500ix.

That would be very sweet!!!

Speed Trap Hunter · #9 (**permalink**) 2008-10-19

Valentine Research, still holds a patent on the arrows so in the context of what is actually feasible to build (at least for now), including their function is not practical. Of course having arrows would add to the already impressive capabilities of such a detector.

In fact the potential for doing so is already apparent in their current designs as an arrow already appears on the displays of the GPS enabled radar detectors, like the Escort 9500ix and the Escort 9500ci to indicate the direction of marked locations (like redlight camera locations).

I am sure it's probably simply a matter of time for this pipe-dream to become a reality.

And what a day that will be, to be sure!

BTW, the laser detection capability of the Bel GX65 is really quite exceptional.

STH

steagall1000 · #10 (**permalink**) 2008-10-19

Ok Veil Guy,

Now your starting to sound like craig peterson. LoL!! Yeah V1 has a patent, but in reality if lets say their was no patent, then the V1 with the GPS and escort and Bels filtering features would be nice. You sound like you favor the escorts and Bel's alot. I think all of these radar detectors have great features. Each one in some instances better than others. For example I think the V1 has the best ramp up and radar sensitivity over any windshield mounted Bel or Escort today. I also feel the V1 focuses on the only true threat, that was intended for radar detectors. Of course that would be just "radar". I'm a person who just wants to know where the cop is sitting and how close the threat is. I'm not big on GPS radar detectors or SWS features or all those other things. I want something simple and easy to use and understand. The V1 has been my choice. I have friends who want all the bells and whistles on a radar detector, which I think if they actually benifit the consumer than sell it. Thats my.02 cents on radar detectors.

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Originally Posted by Speed Trap Hunter

Valentine Research, still holds a patent on the arrows so in the context of what is actually feasible to build (at least for now), including their function is not practical. Of course having arrows would add to the already impressive capabilities of such a detector.

In fact the potential for doing so is already apparent in their current designs as an arrow already appears on the displays of the GPS enabled radar detectors, like the Escort 9500ix and the Escort 9500ci to indicate the direction of marked locations (like redlight camera locations).

I am sure it's probably simply a matter of time for this pipe-dream to become a reality.

And what a day that will be, to be sure!

BTW, the laser detection capability of the Bel GX65 is really quite exceptional.

STH