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I'm not "sending" anyone, anywhere.
I am merely citing information from all known sources - it's called being complete and impartial. It's called being fair. It's called not hiding from anything.
If there were a better informational, technical, and overall historical resource than RadarDetector.net, point it out to me, I challenge you.
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You are very bias in your comments, and favor the Laser interceptor as a highly recommended jammer.
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Do I favor the Laser Interceptor?
Yes - but only in that so far, nothing can come close to touching its performance nor the pace of its technical development/evolution.
In terms of customer-service, I place it as an equal between the other top-rankers of this category (in no particular order) - Escort, Blinder, and LPP.
In terms of durability/reliability, it can only be said that few ( < 30% ) of the original US-bound units, using the 8.0 heads, are still on-road today, this is certainly very disappointing - but then again, this has to be balanced in light of the fact that its warranty-replacement units have seen nearly the same road-time as the Escort ZR4 (slightly older) and Blinder J16 revision (slightly younger), and in so much as that none of the three have seen perfect records simply from the hobbyist-base reports via RD.net and RR.net, I consider them to be equals.
These are undeniable *_FACTS_*, and all of it can be investigated FIRST HAND by anyone who cares to pull the old posts from RD.net, RR.net and the LI Forums.
This is not bias.
This is simply calling Spades, Spades.
These are factual assertions which can be proven, should *anyone* take the time out to properly research their purchases.
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You are all about diode jammers TSi+WRX and you try to have a explanation for why the LI has so many problems. Point being made is the LI is not a reliable jammer and never has been. Even the veil guy told you why he would not recommend a Diode jammer.
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And
The VEIL Guy has no biases, himself? Did you not suggest as much, on the "Perfect Radar Detector" thread?
^ We all have our biases. Myself included. But as with
The VEIL Guy, I don't try to hide the reasons why I am biased - and as with such individuals, I also base such biases on factual data and logical reasoning.
We are all human, we all have our own biases. But such biases can be based on irrationalities - just as well as they can be based in logic.
And once again,
steagall, your assumptions of me are more than wrong.
I am not an advocate of *ANY* jamming system. I simply point out to each consumer, as a disinterested and non-vested party myself, and let them make the decision of what's best for them.
My commentary on various jamming systems have led people to LPPs, LIs, ALs, as well as the Escort products and Blinders.
I don't push any product. I have no vested interests in any products.
Can you say the same?
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LED jammers have been proven to perform and hold up over time.
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Correct.
However, the proper examination of the current status of product durability/reliability cannot be based on the product past-history.
The Escort ZR4 was noted by several members of RD.net to have suffered water-ingress issues, leading to malfunction, merely days after its initial installation on-vehicle.
Similarly, RR.net members have posted early water-sealing issues of the Blinder 5-suffix units.
Although each product and company's PAST history of bringing forward extremely durable and reliable products is undeniable (as well as most impressive), it is the young age of these CURRENT products, of which each has seen product evolution in a manner that can well impact issues such as weathersealing and overall durability/reliability, that is the subject of debate here.
To offer a valid comparison of the issue of durability/reliability, the actual age of the CURRENTLY available products should be examined - not its history, which, although a valid indicator, is nevertheless inaccurate and slightly misleading.
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The LI, LPP and Anti Laser G8 have not.
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The LI, I've already addressed above.
No, the AL G8 certainly does not. As of the time it went off-shelves on the primary retail market, it still suffered from weathersealing issues.
However, once again, the LPP is the current king of this category. In its current iteration, with the UK-made products, it's entering it's second year of being on-road, without any significant warranty claims. Both RD.net as well as the LPP Forums bear witness to this fact.
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Radar reviews and RD.net all favor the LI and LPP jammers. So therefore they hold no credit and mislead consumers to buy an expensive jammer that has nothing but problems.
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Again, my reference posts above clearly discounts your assertion here. In particular, RD.net has always been more than just Blinder-friendly. It's always been Blinder's primary stomping ground.
You were ousted from RD.net for the way you treated its members,.
You were asked to leave RD.net by none other than
Blinder Dude.
Again, the historical reference posts are there, as-provided by my links above, for *anyone* to see.
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Company's like blinder and escort will always be around. LI and LPP on the other hand probably will not be around.
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There's simply no good way to debate this one.
Escort has been in business for so long that, to argue its continued presence - or to use that item as "leverage" in any debate, is virtually pointless.
Blinder, similarly, can grandfather itself into this clause.
No other operation can come close to matching their history.
Jammer makers seem to come-and-go at a whim.
So far, AL has been here for 4+, LPP for 3+, and, *in its current iteration, LI for nearly 2.
Can/will these other companies disappear?
Certainly possible. Lidatek seems to have gone that way, after about 4 years.
But this is a factor which does not impact the actual durability/reliability of the unit hardware.
It is its own separate factor, and bears its own separate examination.
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Blinder and escort are company's I would trust who have the technology down.
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^ And is that why both of these companies' latest offerings saw some teething pains?
Is this the reason why those out-of-the-box Escort ZR4 heads saw weathersealing issues?
Does this also explain why the Blinder J11 was such a horrible product, compared against its J15 replacement, and now, the J16?
To say that any one of these companies has a "lock" on the technology is a moot point.
So far, none of these products have been perfect. None are capable of providing the magical balance of being able to effectively jam EVERY police-LIDAR threat while maintaining just the level of weathersealing that one could expect from, heck, even a pair of $30 aftermarket driving/fog lamps from the local automotive parts retailer.
Additionally, as police-LIDAR continues to evolve, these companies' need to evolve their hardware and software, too.
We've seen that Blinder is quite capable of doing this. It may not be the fastest at such, but it does move, and it does respond to the needs of its varied and worldwide customer-base.
We have *NOT* seen this, historically, of Escort. It's ZR3 became quite outdated, by the time the evolutionary ZR4 was finally brought to-market.
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In my opinion the companys who have shown the best reliability and proven performance are winners in my book.
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Again, this is but one factor. The overall decision tree has many concerns, including the one above (i.e. "accountability" over time).
- jamming performance
- error-code/jam-code avoidance
- timely updates and upgrades
- legality, or semblance of such
- warranty/customer-service network
- ease of purchase (i.e. potential import and transfer concerns)
- durability/reliability
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TSi+WRX you can keep leading consumers over to the LI forums and that is fine.
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Again, I am not leading anyone, anywhere.
I'm simply bringing forward ALL the facts, to let them make their own decision.
I have no vested interest in any product. Based on my recommendations on any of the cited countermeasures communities - as well as of auto-enthusiast communities - other hobbyists have decided on a true variety of such devices , for themselves.
My own favoritism towards Blinder as well as Escort products can be traced on these very same Forums.
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As I already know once they have experienced the problems with the LI, they will always come back to proven company's like Blinder and escort.
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I'm not asking for much.
I'm just, as the post above cited, asking for the name of that one single friend of yours, so that we can prove, beyond the shadow of doubt, that your assertions are true.
We've all seen how you make less-than-honest claims in the past ( REF:
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...lts-leaked.htm , as well as the post l cited above
Topic: Rear Protection , of
rsatman's testing data ), prove me wrong. I'd welcome it.
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TSi+WRX ,Maybe you should be a sales rep for cliff, since you seem to love sending people over to him for the LI.
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Again, I have made it terribly clear, everywhere I am, that I am not tied to *any* of the jammer makers, nor anyone in the industry - or even any particular hobbyist group.
I am a simple end-consumer.
I have no vested interest.
Again, can you make the same claim?
The purpose of my postings here, regarding the LI and other such devices, is simply to counterbalance the negative picture that you portray of such items.
I point out both the pros and cons, whereas you focus only on the negative.
My purpose of being is to make sure that the end-consumer knows exactly what the true picture happens to be, so that he/she will not approach the purchase with any false information nor impressions.
*ANYWHERE* that *ANYONE* would care to look, from the auto-enthusiast Forums where I participate (and yes, I have the same screen-name throughout, with the exception of a few select communities, where my handle is "LGT+WRX"), I have always sought to portray a true and fair picture of EVERY active laser jammer device, and that includes the Blinder.
Furthermore, with the exception of the Blinder J11 revision as well as the J11-to-J15 transition (both are cases where many other community long-term'ers and long-time Blinder proponents have also expressed their disappointment, dismay, and even anger, towards these issues), as well as the relative merit of the Blinder "Ticket Rebate" program, I have never spoken ill of Blinder or its products.
I have even, in the past, weighed-in on various Blinder "Group Buys," offering my compliments to the product, and giving it support.
To say that I am *UNFAIRLY* biased specifically towards any product is a serious allegation,
steagall - as-is your thinking that I should somehow be involved in any of the financial (or other) vesting of any such product.
I challenge you to prove such an assertion, for it is an outright lie.
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In the end the only thing that matters is that the customer who purchased your product should have enough time to slow down, so they don't recieve a speeding ticket. We are all on the same team as far as helping each other against the MAN pulling us over. Thats all that matters!!
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Yes, but that also means being fair and impartial.
The end-consumer needs to know all the facts, so that he/she can make an informed decision themselves, based on THEIR specific needs and wants.
Have people bought the LI, after seeing my presentation?
Certainly.
The same goes for the AL and LPP.
But have people also decided to go with the Blinder, based on the same?
Yes, just as well.
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SCGT -
Here's what I'd promised to dig-up for you, regarding
djrams80's setup:
9500ci V1 9500ix LI Veil G4 Walkaround Video - Radar Detector Jammer Forum 
Linear Mode
