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My STI has a front receiver, and a rear receiver that sits on top of the detector facing rearward. I don't have a pic, but can get one if need be.
It's an advertised "360-degree protection," yes, and yes, that claim is valid -
but it's more because of the physical behavior of the RADAR and LIDAR, in that they will reflect off of ambient objects and thus, afford rear "coverage/detection," from its sole forward-mounted antenna/receiver array.
That little bubble to the upper right of the front of your detector face?
That's actually just a place for a "light conduit" to "pipe" light through to its forward-facing laser sensor.
Furthermore, there is no rear-facing radar antenna.
This is, so far, a characteristic that is identical on all Bel/Escort in-vehicle, stand-alone detectors.
Many other detector makes (i.e. Cobra, Uniden, etc.; look at their product websites in-detail, at the pictures, you'll also notice the tell-tale "bubble" of the rear-facing "light-pipe" on the upper right [or left] of most of these units) also utilize this kind of setup, which really becomes dependent on the physical properties of RADAR and LIDAR to offer "rear" protection.
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I believe the Valentine 1 is the only other detector that receives rear stuff also?
Correct, but with a twist.
The V1 is the only stand-alone, in-vehicle unit that actually has a separate rear-facing radar antenna, as well as separate rear-facing laser receiver.
This is part of the reason why the V1 is a "RADAR locator," as by having two distinct antennas, it can compute the "direction/location" of the physical threat. The same with laser.
This is also why so many enthusiasts favor the V1 (as an in-vehicle detector) for open-highway scenarios, where its distinct rear-facing antenna array allows for better rear reception than other in-vehicle units that must rely on only a forward antenna. [ Note here that with the remote-mounted Escort 9500ci and Bel STi-R, the absolute raw sensitivity of these units, combined with their external-to-cabin location, can, in many cases, offer even better absolute detection range, forward or rear, than the V1, which is limited by its physical placement/setup as an in-vehicle standalone unit. ]
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I am just wondering why the built in detectors don't have any provision for rear pick up?
In all honesty, I don't really know why the V1 is the only one. I think that their patents may have something to do with this, primarily in terms of RADAR.
In terms of LIDAR, there used to be detector offerings which included a wired rear-window-mounted laser receiver. The idea never really caught-on, and I think that the rarity of rear LIDAR encounters and enforcement has a lot to do with this.
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I am assuming that if I had the 9500ci in my car and a patol car came up behind me w/ radar I wouldn't pick him up unless it was as you say bouncing off something in front (around) me?
True.
But with the amazing sensitivity of the 9500ci, such a blindside scenario is *extremely* unlikely. I'd say, actually, almost impossible.
In such a rear-on situation, you'd much more likely be paced, or be timed (i.e. VASCAR). Or, otherwise, a blast of I/O will fry you - and it wouldn't matter, in any of these cases, even if you did have a dedicated rear antenna.
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Is all 'laser' from a hand held gun and all mounted units K or Ka band radar?
Currently, all US-used police LIDAR is "handheld," in usage.
It's an advertised "360-degree protection," yes, and yes, that claim is valid -
but it's more because of the physical behavior of the RADAR and LIDAR, in that they will reflect off of ambient objects and thus, afford rear "coverage/detection," from its sole forward-mounted antenna/receiver array.
That little bubble to the upper right of the front of your detector face?
That's actually just a place for a "light conduit" to "pipe" light through to its forward-facing laser sensor.
Furthermore, there is no rear-facing radar antenna.
This is, so far, a characteristic that is identical on all Bel/Escort in-vehicle, stand-alone detectors.
Many other detector makes (i.e. Cobra, Uniden, etc.; look at their product websites in-detail, at the pictures, you'll also notice the tell-tale "bubble" of the rear-facing "light-pipe" on the upper right [or left] of most of these units) also utilize this kind of setup, which really becomes dependent on the physical properties of RADAR and LIDAR to offer "rear" protection.
Correct, but with a twist.
The V1 is the only stand-alone, in-vehicle unit that actually has a separate rear-facing radar antenna, as well as separate rear-facing laser receiver.
This is part of the reason why the V1 is a "RADAR locator," as by having two distinct antennas, it can compute the "direction/location" of the physical threat. The same with laser.
This is also why so many enthusiasts favor the V1 (as an in-vehicle detector) for open-highway scenarios, where its distinct rear-facing antenna array allows for better rear reception than other in-vehicle units that must rely on only a forward antenna. [ Note here that with the remote-mounted Escort 9500ci and Bel STi-R, the absolute raw sensitivity of these units, combined with their external-to-cabin location, can, in many cases, offer even better absolute detection range, forward or rear, than the V1, which is limited by its physical placement/setup as an in-vehicle standalone unit. ]
In all honesty, I don't really know why the V1 is the only one. I think that their patents may have something to do with this, primarily in terms of RADAR.
In terms of LIDAR, there used to be detector offerings which included a wired rear-window-mounted laser receiver. The idea never really caught-on, and I think that the rarity of rear LIDAR encounters and enforcement has a lot to do with this.
True.
But with the amazing sensitivity of the 9500ci, such a blindside scenario is *extremely* unlikely. I'd say, actually, almost impossible.
In such a rear-on situation, you'd much more likely be paced, or be timed (i.e. VASCAR). Or, otherwise, a blast of I/O will fry you - and it wouldn't matter, in any of these cases, even if you did have a dedicated rear antenna.
Currently, all US-used police LIDAR is "handheld," in usage.
VEIL's pricing is usually pretty consistent - either BuyRadarDetectors (a site sponsor here) or RadarBusters (the commercial aspect of RadarDetector.net) usually carries plenty of stock. mhardy and steagall here are also both VEIL retailers, I believe.
For the 9500ci, I recommend biting the bullet, and ordering straight from Escort.
On something *that* high-tech, and with so many things that can potentially go wrong, knowing that your product carries, without a single shadow-of-doubt, full factory warranty support.
Whatever you do, even if you are dead-set on bargain hunting for the ci, BE SURE that who/where you buy from is an *AUTHORIZED ESCORT RETAILER* - call Escort, directly, to verify, before you buy.
For something with that hefty of a price-tag, and with that much complicated circuitry and software, it's not worth saving the extra couple hundred bucks in the beginning, only to later have to eat the complete repair/replacement cost.......
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