Laser Star

TSi+WRX · #46 (**permalink**) 2008-11-12

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Originally Posted by SCGT

Okay, now my head is swimming w/ too much info.

I apologize

- I've been told, more than once, that it can take a few hours to fully digest some of my posts.

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I was thinking the STI-R hada rear sensor.

Have a look at the item's installation manual .pdf, which is available on the Beltronics official website.

The only thing I see is a single, combined, forward-facing RADAR/LIDAR receiver antenna.

There is no jammer heads, either front or rear. That's where the ZR4, sourced through their parent firm Escort, comes into play as a stand-alone addition.

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Also remember I was told the ZR4's don't work well against Stalker, which I was told my state uses.

Traditionally, the Escort products have not done well against the Stalker LZ-1 LIDAR:

Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR

^ That's of the ZR4.

If you looked in their historical "Tests and Reviews" archives, you can see that, in the many times they've tested the ZR3 over the course of the previous years, the same holds true for that unit.

The Blinder products have, at the same time, historically (currently, J16 performance in a versus scenario is unknown, however, based on J15 performance against such, this should *not* prove to be a worry) provided much better protection against the LZ-1.

If you intend to stick with the ZR4, I would highly recommend that you pair the jammer with VEIL.

VEIL has always done a number on the Stalker. It practically eats the Stalker alive.

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Now that I see the STI-R doesn't have rear pick up it worries me.

My window mount picks up from the rear all the time so I know I need that.

It's hard (virtually impossible) to say, *definitively,* that you saw actual rear incoming LIDAR, versus scatter/reflections via the unit's forward laser receiver, akin to these single-antenna detectors' ability to pick up rear-incoming RADAR.

The same kind of deal goes for the STi-R.

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This is much more complicated than I have time for.

A good decision always means sleepless nights.

SCGT · #47 (**permalink**) 2008-11-12

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If you intend to stick with the ZR4, I would highly recommend that you pair the jammer with VEIL.

VEIL has always done a number on the Stalker. It practically eats the Stalker alive.

I have not decided on any particular item yet, just trying to narrow down

It's hard (virtually impossible) to say, *definitively,* that you saw actual rear incoming LIDAR, versus scatter/reflections via the unit's forward laser receiver, akin to these single-antenna detectors' ability to pick up rear-incoming RADAR.

The same kind of deal goes for the STi-R.

I need more explaining of this second part.

Are you saying that eventhough I have a remote detector head mounted in my grill there is a 'antenna' that would pick up radar from the rear?

In using my STI for probably 2 years now I have only heard the 'laser' beep in my driveway 2 times. I have NEVER heard the 'laser' alert going off on the road?

I have it set on Autoscan, so whenever I hear something I check my speed.

I commonly hear X and K, not sure if K is radar used by Police?

And I hear Ka and know that is police because I see them eventually.

Not sure why I have not heard laser before unless it is just not common in my area?

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Veil Guy · #48 (**permalink**) 2008-11-12

To wit:

Veil Guy

Veil Guy · #49 (**permalink**) 2008-11-12

SCGT,

I wouldn't over think this either.

I was recently considering a the use of the folllowing high-end DSLRs for a recent trip that I made out West: Nikon D3, D300, Canon 1Ds Mark II, 5D and spent a considerable amount of time internally debating which one.

Speaking to a professional wildlife photographer, I was reminded that it is the photographer the produces great pictures, not the camera equipment.

Sometimes I let myself get carried away with over analysis. Each of these systems are incredible (in their own right) at potentially taking fantastic pictures.

I suspect you would ultimately be satisfied with a variety of the different solutions that are available...

(BTW, I went with the Nikon D3 and haven't looked back).

Veil Guy

SCGT · #50 (**permalink**) 2008-11-12

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To wit:

Veil Guy

I like the song in the first video the best...oops...what was the question again? LOL

Seems Veil is definitely part of the equation.

On these cars used how many layers of product is typically used?

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