RE: OP/initiating post -
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Originally Posted by Stealth Enthusiast  I have been reading on other forums and a LI website that LI is no longer in business. Can someone a little higher up in the food chain either positively confirm this, or positively deny this? One thing I do know is that on the LI forum a lot of people are all of a sudden selling their jammers. If they have gone out of business then does anyone know why? |
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Originally Posted by Stealth Enthusiast No, I thought they went out of business because of the TruSpeed fiasco? If you google "laser interceptor out of business" you will see some of the LI sites that are talking about them going out of business. I have not contacted the rep for the states but that is my next move to confirm this one way or the other. |
^ You're likely doing your background research, before buying.
I like people who do their homework, so I'll try to help.
Indeed, there was rumor to this, that there was trouble brewing for Laser Interceptor, but it was proven unfounded.
Why am I so certain in saying this?
No, I don't have any ties in the industry. Even as a hobbyist, I'm a true independent - I don't even have any "group" affiliations.
As-such I can truly say what's on my mind.
I'm certain of this because LI is still around - given the fact that such a rumor dates back to mid-late April of this year (a date which you can verify, for yourself, if you'll surf up the Laser Interceptor Forums, in whose "Genera" sub-Forum you'll see the pertinent posts, which can then be cross-verified with the resignation of some key members in the RadarDetector.net Forum community, and the hysteria and drama that took place, there, at that time).
Additionally, be very careful in contacting supposed "LI Authorized Retailers."
Many of these individuals are nothing but shills, and are -NOT- actually authorized by LI's mother team in Croatia. There are even those who claim that they're still authorized resellers, who've been terminated from LI's distribution chain, who sell OTHER jammers, and whose only thought is to discredit the LI name, via such tactics.
More recently,
The Goons of LaserJammerTests - associated directly with a Stateside effort to sell the LaserStar jammers (AL G8 clones), despite their repeated, dishonest, claims to be of no vested-interest - has tried to bring up the same of Laser Pro Park.
LPP, which is made by KMPH-UK, has always been a target of
The Goons (if you head over to RadarDetector.net or RadarReviews.net, you'll get a rather decent historical lesson as to why this bunch of people are called "goons") partly out of their own past history with LPP (specifically, with the LPP's Canadian distributor, KMPH-Canada/LPP-Canada), as well as the fact that, quite simply, the products are such close competitors.
While the current claims that LPP is "going out of business" does look scary, with the various Internet pages showing what appears to be official documentation of such a claim, word from trusted LPP sources indicate that it's nothing more than a business name-change for the parties involved.
And although this latter re-assurance has gone a long way to calm those of us who have been long-time LPP users and supporters, to be completely truthful, the community is still rather upset with LPP, due to their lack of response, even now, to the TruSpeed concern (which you spoke of) - and this news certainly only adds to our (yes, I've been a long-time supporter of LPP, and yes, I'm also somewhat "disgruntled," currently, due to this very concern) current fears.
RE: ZR4 -
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Originally Posted by Stealth Enthusiast I agree, but unfortunately the ZR4 leaves a lot to be desired in the jamming department. |
I agree with what
VEIL Guy had to say, about the real-world effectiveness of the ZR4, versus "testing" scenarios.
Even with the ZR3, I never had problems.
While I do agree that the jamming performance of the ZR4 can - and should - be made better (just look at what
MEM-TEK did), particularly given its direct cross-comparison to either the outgoing Mx5 variant Blinder product or the preliminary data from the new Mx7, I think that it should be noted that the ZR3/4 still are rather marvels of LIDAR *detection* (as evidenced by their astounding capabilities against TruSpeed).
RE: the sanctity of our community -
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Originally Posted by Stealth Enthusiast No problem STH I have been an admin myself for many forums for many, many years, and am now moderating for the forum software that you use so I know how a kind word is appreciated  Please keep up the good work. It sets this forum above the others |
Be careful.
Although the Admin here has done a very good job in squashing the worst of the drama, this community is still not free of shills and their associated mistruths and disinformation.
Only a few weeks ago, information regarding the then-not-yet-released Blinder Mx7 units was flagrantly "shilled" here (and elsewhere), and even now, this member continues to present information which borders on untruthful, and is designed only to try to put more money in his pocket, in hoping to make the consumer commit to a purchase.
RE: "tripod" testing -
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This one confuses me. Wouldn't a tripod make the test more accurate, as it takes the human element out of the test and puts "machine against machine" so to speak? From that point on, when a real LEO tries to scan you with his laser gun since they won't be holding the gun as steady, their results will be worse than with the tripod. That's how I understand it anyway. As far as Veil goes, for the longest time I used only Veil and it has always worked great. Just wish it was a little less conspicuous though, but I will always continue to support and use it.
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You are correct - the less steady the shooter,
typically, the longer it will take for the LIDAR to lock a valid reading. This is a function of the "error-trapping" of the LIDAR device.
In this manner yes, a tripod should take some of such a concern out of the equation, in quantitative testing.
However, give it a bit more thought, and you'll realize that it's a sword that cuts both ways.
Used in an
honest "enthusiast" manner, yes, the extra-steady presentation of the tripod can help target a vehicle's specific weak-points, including areas which present as extremes to the protective capabilities of the jammer unit.
However, such steady aiming can also be exploited by the unethical - in targeting, specifically, areas close to the jammer head, even a relatively "weak" jammer (in terms of either reception or output) can appear to protect well. In this manner, the tripod can help such a tester more precisely control the aim of the LIDAR, to hopefully keep it closer to its desired mark.
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I go to a forum to be educated and to learn about a topic (in this case countermeasures) and not to be manipulated by shills. Because anyone can post anything on you-tube, I do not use it as a source of credible information either.
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^ Exactly.
One has to remember how easily a video can be manipulated - manipulations that have nothing to do with fancy edits or computer-enhancement, but rather, basic deceptive practices.
People have to realize that it's just another form of mass-media, and that seeing a video is not the same as being there, and being an active part of the testing.
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I do think that the countermeasures community will clean itself up over the next couple of years. Too many people are sick and tired of all of the bickering, soap operas and nonsensical games being played by those willing to mislead just to make money. Hopefully that will happen sooner than later.
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Amen.
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