Laser Jammer Test 2008: Guys of Lidar

Originally Posted by WaltBurkett

Scott,

Scott I do not consider a PM sacred and “Top-secret” especially since you are a Blinder rep and you did not say this was in a anyway privileged information. I did not have your e-mail address so I went with a PM. I also do not see a need for any of this to be a secret. You stated to me that the LI in the GOL test was “juiced”. I do not know what that means. You also said you were told not to say any more about it. Why not? I would expect this forum to be one where anyone can bring value to the flow of valid information concerning laser jammers. If you have a claim simply substantiate it. I initially wrote to you because I am looking for unbiased opinions from those that supposedly are experts in the field. I have never disputed that Blinder was a great product simply that the LI seemed superior, at least in the GOL testing.
What I am looking for is validated information to help me with my decision.
So, what exactly does “juiced” mean?
I thought the whole idea of this website was to get away from bogus claims, slander and undocumented innuendo.

Walt

Originally Posted by Veil Guy

Walt,

If you don't mind me adding my .02 cents about the current state of laser jammers.

I offer this only as an attempt to help you along with your decision as I am not financially connected with any of these laser jammer manufacturers.

I have seen a number of different laser jammer companies come and go over the years.

Laser jammers appear to essentially come in two flavors. One is LED (light-emitting diode in the IR) and the other is a more elaborate laser diode type (similar to the illuminator of the lidar guns themselves).

There is only one laser diode jammer that I have seen stand the test of time and that is the original LE-10 from Lidatek (which has long since been out of production).

Other laser diode jammer I have seen or heard about appear to have longevity or performance consistency issues. I am not sure if it's because they are "overdriven" or not fabricated to a certain quality standard.

While any given jammer may produce "eye-popping" results on any given day and at any given test, I would be concerned about long-term reliability, especially when one considers the cost and time to install (and/or remove) such a unit multiple times and not including the risk one faces by having either a partial and/or complete failure in the field with one.

Coupling that concern with, the fact, the these kinds of laser jammers have been suggested by a US patent holder of the technology to be potentially patent-infringing in this particular market and coupled with the nature in which some of the laser jammer companies have gone about attempting to market their products in this market, would give me some pause.

On the other hand, the "cooler" operating and reliable LED jammers from either Blinder and/or Beltronics/Escort have proven, while not necessarily providing the absolute top performance in a head-to-head comparison in controlled tests, have demonstrated consistent long-term reliability.

Furthermore given some of the shenanigans that have taken place over the years, I'd even question if some of these jammers are indeed FDA approved as eye safe (despite what a label might indicate).

IMO, a 911 wouldn't be as desirable if its boxer engine wasn't capable of producing top performance over a long period of time.

I liken this to going to the race track to bracket race. Sure, there may be a NOx 9 second car that can produce a win on any given day, but its the steady players that win day in an day out with engine designs are reliable and repeatable.

I know you don't particularly care for the appearance of Veil G4 and that's totally fine, but I believe pairing Veil G4 with any jammer, especially an LED-based laser jammer will provide awesome combined performance along with consistent longevity.

I hope this commentary helps whether you agree or disagree.

Good luck with whatever way you choose to go.

Veil Guy